Peter, you know my feelings. Indigenous North Americans were eliminated more completely and for a longer period than any other targeted population. Since Columbus made contact, Indigenous population in North America has declined, and near the end of the 19th century were almost eliminated completely. I give evidence in the genocide section of Systemic Injustice.
Yours and his will be on my soon to read list! I ordered Pagans in the Promised land and two other books that Amazon recommended. I guess you guys are too good make Amazon's top list. FFY I did find a critique of RBG as racist when I was looking up the case you mentioned related to her. Let me know if you want me to link you to it or not.
Yes! I was just wondering if you wanted me to send you the link of the fellow who asserts RBG is/was a racist without intending to be. Just in case, the link to his specific letter is in this broader piece.
"A caveat: in this article, I will offer a critical overview of Ginsburg’s legacy. In doing so, I do not intend to discredit or ignore the vastly important implications of the decisions that she made over the course of her career, particularly for women. Rather, I hope that this article presents the opportunity to, amongst our mourning and praise, also think deeply about who benefits from RBG’s legacy, and more importantly who falls to the wayside: namely poor, queer, Black and Indigenous People".
Again, there is opportunity to merge the interests of indigenous peoples and POC more generally, whilst acknowledging the distinctions in the form that harm takes in terms of land rights vs. racism itself.
By Rowena Kosher, Co-Editor of RightsViews and student at Columbia’s School of General Studies majoring in Human Rights with a Concentration in Gender & Sexuality Studies.
"Thank you, Peter. In Japan, a small group of Ainu people has filed a lawsuit to confirm the right to capture mel in the Sapporo District Court, and a judgment will be issued in April. The problem is that the Ainu defense team is using the "principle of discovery" to argue in court. I thought that the claim of the Ainu defense team was unfair and wrote a small essay. There is no reaction from the defense team. But Peter's article is useful for correcting the wrong argument. Thank you!"
*Federal Anti-Indian Law* has arrived. I have this habit of commenting after reading, which I will in a while - except to say up front that I found the phrase 'seeing between worlds' quite evocative.
The depth of your analysis is refreshing, Peter. Case in point: the way you tenderly disrupt (*sine ira et studio* as ancient scholars of Law would have put it) notions such as 'tribe', which I find helpful in pondering my (not so...) 'own' assumptions as I (slowly) proceed.
Really seeing the people on the shore while acknowledging you've come by ship: you have an amazing way of maintaining that double vision.
And why was I not surprised when I chanced upon the name Giorgio Agamben? Probably because the system of domination is akin with colonialism/fascism, which the Italian philosopher has been (and is to this day) a staunch critic of.
While reading your afterword to "Arguments over Genocide", Peter d'Errico, I was reminded of a seven month waiting stint after having ordered the American #2 bestseller [!] *The Real Anthony Fauci* at my 'local' (meaning stealthily & incrementally wokified/uniformized, but otherwise high quality) bookstore. I try not to use the racket known as Amazon dot com whenever possible (sometimes unavoidable).
In the wake of *Pagans in the Promised Land* - a phenomenal work - I'm looking forward to the arrival of your and Steven Schwartzberg's most recent books. I don't regard this as a tour through rabbit holes (although it might turn out to be just that), but as a reflection on what this domination system encompasses, both historically and currently.
“In 1492 Columbus & his crew, lost, battered, and stricken with dysentery, were helped ashore by a people he described as “neither black nor white…fairly tall, good looking and well proportioned.” Believing he had landed in the East Indies, he called these people Indians. In fact, they were part of a Great population that had made its home on this continent for centuries.
They shared in common, a belief the Earth is a spiritual presence that must be honored, not Mastered. Unfortunately, western europeans who came to these shores had a contrary belief. To them, the entire American continent was a beautiful but savage land that it was not only “their” right, but their duty, to tame and use as they saw fit. (From, NATIVE AMERICAN WISDOM, Edited by Kent Nerburn and Louise Mengelkoch, Copyright 1991 K. Nerburn & L. Mengelkoch).
Euro-Colonizers defined the colonized as “indigenous people.” This is a criminal act of Massive Identity Theft. Western science (reductionist biology) created the construct of RACE. Their conclusion was, there are three Races : Negroids, Mongoloids, & Caucasoids.
Reductionist Biology divides life into parts & pieces to explain the whole, aka “Scientism.”
For more details: BIOLOGY UNDER THE INFLUENCE , by Richard C. Lewontin & Richard Levins.
Monthly Review Press New York, Copyright 2007.
Scientific Reductionism : Divide and Rule is a function of “Scientific Reductionism.”
I think you’ll appreciate this statement from a case admitting Armenians to citizenship over the objection of the US:
"We find, then, that there is no European or white race, as the United States contends, and no Asiatic or yellow race which includes substantially all the people of Asia; that the mixture of races in western Asia for the last 25 centuries raises doubt if its individual inhabitants can be classified by race; that, if the ordinary classification is nevertheless followed, Armenians have always been reckoned as Caucasians and white persons; that the outlook of their civilization has been toward Europe. We find, further, that the word ‘white‘ has generally been used in the federal and in the state statutes, in the publications of the United States, and in its classification of its inhabitants, to include all persons not otherwise classified; that Armenians, as well as Syrians and Turks, have been freely naturalized in this court until now, although the statutes in this respect have stood substantially unchanged since the First Congress; that the word ‘white,‘ as used in the statutes, publications, and classification above referred to, though its meaning has been narrowed so as to exclude Chinese and Japanese in some instances, yet still includes Armenians. Congress may amend the statutes in this respect. To provide more specifically what persons may be admitted to citizenship seems desirable. While the statutes are unchanged, without proof, if proof be admissible, that the meaning of the word ‘white‘ has been still further narrowed, this court will not deny citizenship by reason of their color to aliens who, like the Armenians, have hitherto been granted it.”
174 F. 834
Circuit Court, D. Massachusetts.
In re HALLADJIAN et al.
December 24, 1909.
Application by four Armenians, named, respectively, Halladjian, Ekmakjian, Mouradian, and Bayentz, for naturalization. Granted.
Have you ever read the late African (American) Historian, John Henrik Clarke? There are some videos of him on YouTube. He said, African slaves in the USA were first defined as Negoes, then African Americans, then Blacks. Why? To delete where they came from. Most, if not all African slaves were clueless that there was a country called Africa. Today, the word American has been deleted.
So, there are White people, Black people, Hispanic people, Latino people, no such thing as Brown people, Yellow people, Red people.
Peter, you know my feelings. Indigenous North Americans were eliminated more completely and for a longer period than any other targeted population. Since Columbus made contact, Indigenous population in North America has declined, and near the end of the 19th century were almost eliminated completely. I give evidence in the genocide section of Systemic Injustice.
https://youtu.be/HM0cIgEDgVk?si=GcKoGVb3gUhGNmUh
Yours and his will be on my soon to read list! I ordered Pagans in the Promised land and two other books that Amazon recommended. I guess you guys are too good make Amazon's top list. FFY I did find a critique of RBG as racist when I was looking up the case you mentioned related to her. Let me know if you want me to link you to it or not.
I'm happy for you to share my writing as you see fit!
Yes! I was just wondering if you wanted me to send you the link of the fellow who asserts RBG is/was a racist without intending to be. Just in case, the link to his specific letter is in this broader piece.
"A caveat: in this article, I will offer a critical overview of Ginsburg’s legacy. In doing so, I do not intend to discredit or ignore the vastly important implications of the decisions that she made over the course of her career, particularly for women. Rather, I hope that this article presents the opportunity to, amongst our mourning and praise, also think deeply about who benefits from RBG’s legacy, and more importantly who falls to the wayside: namely poor, queer, Black and Indigenous People".
Again, there is opportunity to merge the interests of indigenous peoples and POC more generally, whilst acknowledging the distinctions in the form that harm takes in terms of land rights vs. racism itself.
By Rowena Kosher, Co-Editor of RightsViews and student at Columbia’s School of General Studies majoring in Human Rights with a Concentration in Gender & Sexuality Studies.
https://blogs.cuit.columbia.edu/rightsviews/2020/10/17/complicating-ruth-bader-ginsburgs-legacy-through-the-lens-of-white-feminism-race-and-indigenous-rights/
https://blogs.cornell.edu/cornelluniversityindigenousdispossession/2021/01/04/ruth-bader-ginsburgs-notoriety-in-indian-country-and-cornells-campus-landscape/
many thanks!
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ピーター、ありがとうございます。
日本ではアイヌ民族の小さい集団がサケ捕獲権確認訴訟を札幌地方裁判所に提起しており４月に判決が出されます。
問題はそのアイヌ側の弁護団が「発見の原理」を使って法廷で主張をしています。私はアイヌ側弁護団の
主張は不当だと考え、小さなエッセイを書きました。弁護団の反応はないです。
しかしピーターのこの論稿は間違った議論を正すのに有用です。
ありがとう！
Thank you for your comment!
For other readers, here's a machine translation:
"Thank you, Peter. In Japan, a small group of Ainu people has filed a lawsuit to confirm the right to capture mel in the Sapporo District Court, and a judgment will be issued in April. The problem is that the Ainu defense team is using the "principle of discovery" to argue in court. I thought that the claim of the Ainu defense team was unfair and wrote a small essay. There is no reaction from the defense team. But Peter's article is useful for correcting the wrong argument. Thank you!"
Hallo Peter,
*Federal Anti-Indian Law* has arrived. I have this habit of commenting after reading, which I will in a while - except to say up front that I found the phrase 'seeing between worlds' quite evocative.
Pim - I look forward to more thoughts from you!
Thank you
The depth of your analysis is refreshing, Peter. Case in point: the way you tenderly disrupt (*sine ira et studio* as ancient scholars of Law would have put it) notions such as 'tribe', which I find helpful in pondering my (not so...) 'own' assumptions as I (slowly) proceed.
Really seeing the people on the shore while acknowledging you've come by ship: you have an amazing way of maintaining that double vision.
And why was I not surprised when I chanced upon the name Giorgio Agamben? Probably because the system of domination is akin with colonialism/fascism, which the Italian philosopher has been (and is to this day) a staunch critic of.
While reading your afterword to "Arguments over Genocide", Peter d'Errico, I was reminded of a seven month waiting stint after having ordered the American #2 bestseller [!] *The Real Anthony Fauci* at my 'local' (meaning stealthily & incrementally wokified/uniformized, but otherwise high quality) bookstore. I try not to use the racket known as Amazon dot com whenever possible (sometimes unavoidable).
In the wake of *Pagans in the Promised Land* - a phenomenal work - I'm looking forward to the arrival of your and Steven Schwartzberg's most recent books. I don't regard this as a tour through rabbit holes (although it might turn out to be just that), but as a reflection on what this domination system encompasses, both historically and currently.
Dear Pim Wiersinga - I look forward to your thoughts as you read further! Your comments are always helpful. Thank you.
And I very much enjoy the exchange, Peter
“In 1492 Columbus & his crew, lost, battered, and stricken with dysentery, were helped ashore by a people he described as “neither black nor white…fairly tall, good looking and well proportioned.” Believing he had landed in the East Indies, he called these people Indians. In fact, they were part of a Great population that had made its home on this continent for centuries.
They shared in common, a belief the Earth is a spiritual presence that must be honored, not Mastered. Unfortunately, western europeans who came to these shores had a contrary belief. To them, the entire American continent was a beautiful but savage land that it was not only “their” right, but their duty, to tame and use as they saw fit. (From, NATIVE AMERICAN WISDOM, Edited by Kent Nerburn and Louise Mengelkoch, Copyright 1991 K. Nerburn & L. Mengelkoch).
Euro-Colonizers defined the colonized as “indigenous people.” This is a criminal act of Massive Identity Theft. Western science (reductionist biology) created the construct of RACE. Their conclusion was, there are three Races : Negroids, Mongoloids, & Caucasoids.
Reductionist Biology divides life into parts & pieces to explain the whole, aka “Scientism.”
For more details: BIOLOGY UNDER THE INFLUENCE , by Richard C. Lewontin & Richard Levins.
Monthly Review Press New York, Copyright 2007.
Scientific Reductionism : Divide and Rule is a function of “Scientific Reductionism.”
I think you’ll appreciate this statement from a case admitting Armenians to citizenship over the objection of the US:
"We find, then, that there is no European or white race, as the United States contends, and no Asiatic or yellow race which includes substantially all the people of Asia; that the mixture of races in western Asia for the last 25 centuries raises doubt if its individual inhabitants can be classified by race; that, if the ordinary classification is nevertheless followed, Armenians have always been reckoned as Caucasians and white persons; that the outlook of their civilization has been toward Europe. We find, further, that the word ‘white‘ has generally been used in the federal and in the state statutes, in the publications of the United States, and in its classification of its inhabitants, to include all persons not otherwise classified; that Armenians, as well as Syrians and Turks, have been freely naturalized in this court until now, although the statutes in this respect have stood substantially unchanged since the First Congress; that the word ‘white,‘ as used in the statutes, publications, and classification above referred to, though its meaning has been narrowed so as to exclude Chinese and Japanese in some instances, yet still includes Armenians. Congress may amend the statutes in this respect. To provide more specifically what persons may be admitted to citizenship seems desirable. While the statutes are unchanged, without proof, if proof be admissible, that the meaning of the word ‘white‘ has been still further narrowed, this court will not deny citizenship by reason of their color to aliens who, like the Armenians, have hitherto been granted it.”
174 F. 834
Circuit Court, D. Massachusetts.
In re HALLADJIAN et al.
December 24, 1909.
Application by four Armenians, named, respectively, Halladjian, Ekmakjian, Mouradian, and Bayentz, for naturalization. Granted.
Yes, I do.
Have you ever read the late African (American) Historian, John Henrik Clarke? There are some videos of him on YouTube. He said, African slaves in the USA were first defined as Negoes, then African Americans, then Blacks. Why? To delete where they came from. Most, if not all African slaves were clueless that there was a country called Africa. Today, the word American has been deleted.
So, there are White people, Black people, Hispanic people, Latino people, no such thing as Brown people, Yellow people, Red people.
not familiar with Clarke… thnx..
You’re welcome.
I strongly recommend Author: Anthony T. Browder’s NILE VALLEY Contributions To CIVILIZATION. Exploding The Myths Vol.1, Copyright 1992, Published by :
The Institute of Karmic Guidance, P.O. Box 73025, Washington, DC 20056.
www.ikg-info.com. I saw some YouTube videos of him a couple of years ago.